NLP Seminars Chat Log: Featuring Mark Stanarevic

Good point! A rhythm can be stochastic as well. For example, random movements, heart palpitations, and yet that is still part of the greater rhythm. But because it does not fall in exact sequence as the majority of rhythm entrainment can, does it not mean that it does not contain its own spontaneous, chaotic rhythm? And what I am proposing is that this is still a pattern. Even though this rhythm may not be as predictable as the regular rhythm, in chaos theory we tend to refer to this as bifurcation points. A spin-off from the original pattern forming a more complex pattern originating from the base pattern.

OK, now, how do we relate patterns to humans? What are the rhythms or sequences of behaving that we respond to? How do we know we are behaving in a predictable sequence? How do we calibrate other people's patterns? How can we utilise these patterns? Now. Let these questions remain unconscious for now; I will covering them.

Patterns can contain redundancy - Patterns which contain two many steps for an outcome where only a couple of steps are required. Now....An interesting question was asked to me several years ago. And that question was "What is I?" And actually Gregory Bateson asked that question to John Grinder and Richard Bandler.

I believe all patterns are recursive, Jonathan. The other question I would propose is: "How do we operate out of more useful patterns?" For example: With the tonality example you gave before, you interuppted an example of a recursive pattern, and what I am proposing is that if you do not work at the level of intent, at figuring out what the orginal outcome for the pattern was, then it will cycle back and forth. You see, AS a child, we all learn things from observing our environments and becoming adults. There are many learnings and associations that were once useful for us, but as an adult in our new contexts, because the old learnings remained unconscious, they perhaps have hindered us in some way. E.g phobias of water, perhaps of being thrown into the water as a child -- now as an adult, that phobia would not be useful. So in many instances I have tracked the source of my own patterns and linked them to memories of early experiences as a child or teenager or an adult "imprint experience."

And being able to go back in time and to put in more useful learnings for the current context can address the intent, and in many cases, the reason we have many patterns that typically hinder us is because of our biological survival needs, and the need for our unconscious (through what has happened in one-trial or many trial-learnings) to generalize those over time.

Now, hindering was useful at one time to stop us falling in and drowning, but if you want to enjoy a swim now, it would not be useful. So a simple technique involves asking yourself the intention of the pattern, and you would be surprised in many cases for a picture to pop up, or a voice or strange feeling. Carefully pay attention to what is going on in your own senses during this time of questioning. If you find that a memory comes to the front of your mind, about an interesting experience that you once had, and that there is a relationship between that experience and how you are behaving now, wouldn't that be interesting?