Chat Log: NLP Practitioner Certification Trainings
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IRC Chat Log, September 20, 1998
| Jonathan | Hi folks! And welcome to the chat! This is a special night... because over the course of the next couple of hours, I wanted to do a chat with you folks about what NLP™ Practitioner Trainings offer... what they represent... where they've come from, and where they may be going... And answer some questions as well -- if we can -- about your preconceptions or understandings of what a Practitioner training can do for people! So to get started, I know our long-term reading audience represents a WIDE variety of NLP™ Training backgrounds -- some of you may be Master Pracs... some Practitioners already. Some of you are experienced yet still may not yet have taken a certification training.... And there may even be a few completely new NLP™ students out there! Whichever you may be -- you may hear things in this chat that spark new ideas for you... new ways of looking at new skills.... old skills... and ways of integrating old & new together perhaps... such that you might find yourself being able to approach a problem area in your life with new creativity, & new resources! Would that be useful?
| Sunev, Rondesgr, _Stile_ | Yes!
| Jonathan | OK... well... let's start... at the end... Imagine yourself... at the end of a training having lasted perhaps a couple of weeks. You've finished the course. Everything seems different, somehow. You've got a grin on your face from ear to ear! Every sentence the other students share with you comes with a wink... a nod... a knowing that there are different ways to hear *everything* being said... a knowing that you have greater control over your own emotional states than you can recall ever having -- though thats not entirely true... much of what you've learned made sense at an internal level -- in many cases it was bringing out skills in you that you may have had once as a child... or perhaps -- skills in you that you've been able to exhibit in ONE type of situation... but as yet been unable to APPLY those skills effectively in a structurally different situation... so now... you're thinking of your beliefs and skills... you're imagining your capabilities as being above the specifics of circumstances and time and place and state... and everything feels open to you -- new ideas... new PLANS... a knowledge that you're going to be able to set new goals and outcomes -- and know the difference along with a WIDE variety of possible steps to take in an effort to achieve those outcomes for yourself... and maybe, JUST maybe, you might... giggle to yourself at how flexibly you KNOW you're going to have found yourself behaving as problems arise for you in your future! Now, from my perspective, I think thats one of the best things about it! Wouldn't that be an incredible state to be in? Now, as I think about all the different ways to build all that in so that it can stay with you for the rest of your life... in a way that'll make you smile on the inside out... I wonder how curious that might make you about how much you KNOW you can learn to learn differently and make something new of yourselves and of your skills...! So! If you're curious... if you're really intensely curious... And if you know how to grin!!! Then we can think back to the beginning of the training... and wonder... REALLY wonder... how did it all fit into place? What was my decision process for actually deciding to take the training? What did I expect? SO! How many licensed practitioners do we have here tonight?
| tranzpupy, thefool | Me...
| Sunev | Not me
| rondesgr | Does potential count?
| Jonathan | Sure! Though the next question applies to trained folks... To those two, I'd ask you -- How did you decide to take the training? Once you were already considering it -- What made you say "yes?"
| tranzpupy | You.
| Jonathan | What *internal* cues ;)
| tranzpupy | I felt this powerful YES! feeling at the back of my head...
| thefool | Wow, i can feel that feeling even now, the amazement of the strength of the system, and the curiosity to know the what's and how's... and it flows from the middle of the chest upwards with heat and spicy feeling
| Jonathan | Good answer, Mik! And after you'd decided, you probably had certain expectations & outcomes, right? What might those have been?
| thefool | Hey, now that tranzpupy said that, I do have a feeling on the back of my head too ... that I've just noticed... its like where the feeling from the chest concentrates to, exactly on the bone of the cerebellum :) hmmmm.... not quite... I left all the expectations in the doorway ... :) I said to myself "Que Sera Sera," and man it was wild!
| tranzpupy | Yup, that's it!
| Jonathan | So Mik put his expectations aside and just went with it, eh? You just decided to take that ride!
| tranzpupy | Me too. I just showed up, naked in my expectations...
| Jonathan | LOL!
| thefool | Well that's what they said to do, so I said to myself, for once in your life, do as they say.
| Jonathan | I recall having my own expectations when going to my own first Practitioner training. Wow, my head was spinning! I wanted to be shown how to physically experience NLP™ -- Doing it through what I learned from books was useful but it wasn't like a full-body sport! And I got that! I had heard about all these things -- I'd heard about Anchoring and had played with the skills. I had heard about various language patterns but it didn't make sense in any kind of cohesive way yet. I had heard about various NLP™ skills/tools and did not at the time feel confident that I was "doing it right." Turns out, there's no right & wrong, really... There's only more & less effective, and there are a LOT of more effective ways to do things. Taking an NLP™ Practitioner training is about getting a LOT of those effective ways locked into your behavior in a powerful, cohesive way.
| thefool | I guess, thinking about it, that you can't leave all the expectations at the door... I guess I did bring in some expectations, to learn new and interesting things... to learn!
| Jonathan | If a Trainer shows you one way, it isn't the only way and it isn't necessarily the best way for you!
| SteveBoy | After reading one book on NLP™, I hired a trainer and put together group of 25 people, myself, to share the cost.
| Jonathan | That's great Steve!
| tranzpupy | No right and wrong, but important is that feeling that you *know* what you're doing... even when you don't know what you're doing.
| Jonathan | So, Mik & Tranz... Is that how you experienced your first training?
| tranzpupy | I dunno... I was in trance the whole time... just kidding! Yes, it's much different DOING it. What amazes me is how much a part of me it is now.... four months later... and growing and growing...
| thefool | Yes and no. I loved each and every moment; it was like enjoying each and every bite of an ice cream cone... that melts slowly in your mouth introducing you with new and refreshing cooling tastes ..
| Jonathan | People.... get me on the phone, right? Now when they call... Sometimes I'll use a pattern -- sometimes without thinking about it -- its so ingrained, and if you learn & internalize some of these language patterns, it will be more effective coming back out than the haphazard use of language would have been.
| SteveBoy | Integration of behavior, rather than intellectual knowledge, is the key to success with NLP™!
| Jonathan | I agree Steve!
| rondesgr | Tranz, sometime I would like to hear how it has helped you as a consultant.
| Jonathan | Hey Ron, what a great question! And, it has helped her! We can answer that later, though. But for now -- lets go a step further... Having imagined the end of the training together here tonight... and then gone back to evaluate our decision strategies and our preconceptions... Lets jump into the 1st day or segment of the training. In fact, you jump first! All of you! Jump! Because... YOU go first!
| tranzpupy | JUMP!
| NLPSGI | Hello! G'day mates!
| Jonathan | Hi, Kathleen La Valle! Welcome again to our humble chat abode!
| thefool | Shalom Kathleen! :)
| NLPSGI | Thank you.
| Jonathan | You might recognize "SteveBoy" as Steve Boyley...
| SteveBoy | Hello there
| NLPSGI | Topic tonite or free for all?
| Jonathan | Topic is "NLP™ Practitioner Trainings!" I've already led them through visualizing the end of the training. :) Now we're back to the beginning and thinking about the 1st day...
| NLPSGI | Cool maybe I should try one! *lol*
| tranzpupy | DOLPHINS!!
| thefool | Endolphins! Start-dolfins!
| Jonathan | Having already experienced the end of the training, knowing now what you might about what you don't yet KNOW you're going to be doing better... It could be time to think about the kinds of attitudes and mindsets that are useful for approaching the mastery of NLP™ skills....
| SteveBoy | Everyday is the first day...
| NLPSGI | Of the rest of your life!
| Jonathan | EVERYDAY is the 1st DAY! I love it. And besides, the training begins when the training ends, eh?
| tranzpupy | Thats true! And when you take another weekend or something... you see yourself as you were when you started the Practitioner training. And how you were after, and realize how far you've come, and how much FUN it was, and how much you learned... and how you DOUBLE IT!
| Jonathan | Gosh I almost wanna chunk way up and say "NLP™ Practitioner trainings" are like learning to be a kid again, when all the senses were WAY opened up... when you physically interacted with life around you in a powerful way... and when EVERYTHING was so much fun...." But then, I won't, because you won't imagine that twice as powerfully as you did when I would have been saying it, so lets just leave that where it is and mooooove on!
| Sunev | :-)
| Jonathan | You meet up with allll kinds of people in your life, right? And they behave differently, don't they!
| NLPSGI | Oh, yeah!
| Jonathan | As you will ;)
| Sunev | :-)
| Jonathan | And sometimes, they aren't in completely conscious control over the kinds of responses they give you. Well, sometimes that's true of us too -- and one of the 1st things you might think about is -- if you're going to blame other people for responding the way they do -- guess what! You'd have been giving up the capability you ALREADY have to change their responses. But if you were to... take a little more responsibility and notice a little more about what kinds of responses they're giving you -- who knows -- maybe they'll hand you a key to their minds!
| SteveBoy | That's like taking a Practitioner course before you take a Master Practitioner
| Jonathan | LOL! I should think so!
| SteveBoy | Should think what?
| Jonathan | Well, I won't say, I don't want to em-bare-ass you. But hey -- its not as though they won't learn about how to be artfully ambiguous.... Or artfully ambidextrous, right? Then whats left?
| tranzpupy | I don't quite understand what you're saying, but I agree!!
| SteveBoy | I never went to the Practitioner course first! I thought it might be limiting to believe I was not ready for Master Practitioner.
| thefool | I also haven't done the Practitioner course yet, only Master Practitioner.
| Jonathan | Hmmm. Well, Practitioner isn't a pre-requisite for Master Practitioner! I think of Practitioner as being more about the SELF, and Master Practitioner as being more about how to use the skills in business and with other people to master modeling skills, etc. That isn't the only way understand it, but it's how I think about it.
| Sunev | So you went for it all at once, Steve?
| SteveBoy | You bet
| Jonathan | Hi, John La Valle! ;)
| PureNLP | Hello, mate.
| Jonathan | We have the whole family on here now!
| PureNLP | Oh no.
| SteveBoy | Hello
| Jonathan | The La Valles, fresh back from a FULL DHE™ course in Cairns, Australia! How was that Great Barrier Reef and the Rainforest?
| tranzpupy | You guys just go back from down under? Lucky Aussies!
| NLPSGI | Way cool!
| PureNLP | Ahhhhh!! Gotta do it, again.
| NLPSGI | And again!
| SteveBoy | I bet down-under felt like being on top
| PureNLP | :)
| Sunev | So, how do you keep that vacation feeling with you?
| NLPSGI | Everyday is a vacation, we take work breaks!
| tranzpupy | I just open my vacation mind like an umbrella when I leave the house...
| Jonathan | Alrighty folks -- shall we hop back on track? And if we did, how far would we have to hop? Let's ask John & Kathleen La Valle what *they* think about the NLP™ Practitioner Training! With you, and from your perspective... what should people look forward to... what can they begin now to expect of themselves? Apart from More, More, Better, and Ecstacy!
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