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NLP & Amplifying Your Allure
IRC Chat Log, January 10, 1999

NLP & Amplifying Your Allure
Jonathan I'm glad I was able to get you ALL-LURED in here! A bunch of people asked me to do a chat on shyness, and I immediately thought, YUK! Why would I want to talk about shyness! But since when you ask shy people what they want, what do they often say?
Dluzi Nothing?
sunev "Whatever you want."
Tranzpupy "I don't want to be shy."
Fullstop "To stop being shy."
Gunny` "To be able to live life to the fullest without this disease"
Dluzi Dis ease?
PaulS "To lose fear of others' disapproval"
Androver "To laugh, to learn, to live, to love. To absolutely love my own personality."
Jonathan The 1st thing we might wanna do, right off the bat, if we wanna be more alluring... more charismatic... more dynamic... is to adjust our goals/outcomes. Instead of wanting to "stop" doing something, or be LESS something else -- frame it more positively. Decide what you want MORE of. Decide what you want to DO more of or better, etc. Even if youre often motivated more by what you don't want, be clear 1st about what you DO want! So let's take the answers you might hear -- that you offered above -- and frame 'em better!

"Dont want to be Shy?"
"To Stop Being Shy?"
"To be able to live life w/o the disease?"
"Want Confidence"
"Lose Fears"
"Laugh, learn, live, love..." <---- I LIKE these last ones! Which one sounds the best and gives you the best feelings in response?

Androver I, personally, like things that don't at all remind you of what you want to get away from.
PaulS Self-Acceptance
PaulS Enjoy all people. That makes the identity free from others' approval.
Wendi I like that one -- not needing the approval.
Jonathan Not needing the approval, Wendi? What do you need, then?
Wendi Hmmmm, I need to know that I am OK even if others reject me; that would apply mostly to m/f relationships.
Jonathan So, there are all kinds of responses here which come up associated with shyness. Looks like a rat's nest of personal bullshit to me. :)
PaulS LOL
Jonathan No, really, what if NONE of this stuff were relevant anymore because everything went so much more smoooooothly for you with other people? Do you think you'd have all kinds of other secondary problems associated with "SHYNESS" if you were simply more dynamic with people? Hm?
Androver What kinds of secondary problems?
Jonathan I've got amnesia for them, Androver, I can't remember!
PaulS There would be none.
IntriKate Oh, I like dynamic!
DarkF If people respond better to you it builds confidence.
Jonathan Or might all those other things, like "low self-esteem," and boring or unsuccessful relationships all become a drastically reduced set of issues, if not completely irrelevant?
TheFool More dynamic with other people but not with yourself.. will get you back to point 0.. again..
Androver Yeah, yeah, thefool has quite a point there. You still have to like yourself. =)
TheFool They don't call me thefool for nothing! The mystical cycle of shyness for attention... you get more... you get more... you get more... etc...
PaulS You couldn't be more dynamic with others, if not first with yourself.
Jonathan Ahhh thefool. Maybe thats a good starting point, maybe not. A lot of the self-help books and metaphysics materials talk about "learning to love the self again." Well, you can do that through NLP or Hypnosis, etc., or a variety of things. There's certainly a lot out there to help with that.
Androver In my experience, seems like shy people are looking for something deeper than just regular interaction with people. so it's more than just being "dynamic with people," it's knowing what you want, too, and being able to really show who you are when you're with others.
Jonathan Androver, I'd agree! Neat point. If we wanted to live more grand lives & enjoy more rewarding communication with others, then what if... what if... what if we were to just go out and try some techniques that would shift people's responses to ourselves nonverbally? Each person who had a shyness thing may do it differently, right? Not everyone experiences the same kinds of responses/behaviors.
PaulS Cool concept
TheFool True point Jonathan, sometimes rearranging your environment will rearrange your innerlife.
Androver Jonathan: So the interaction would be increased and there would be more of a bond...?
Jonathan What if each person who'd been shy in the past were to calibrate exactly where & how they held back or were unable to extend to other people, in the past. Most people I've met who were shy, had tons of internal dialogue that said things like "what if they don't like me?" Or "what if I do something bone-headed?" bla bla bla bla bla! What if they did? What if they did something really cool, and people liked it? Could they handle that? They start planning for disappointment, don't they?
ScottG Shy people look to get something, but they are scared to try because they think about all the bad things that could happen to them - this puts them off trying altogether
TheFool Jonathan, we call that "being defenseless," dropping all those kind of questions.
Androver Yeah. It's like they're living in anticipation of one potential pessimistic future instead of living for the moment.
TheFool Exactly, Androver.
PaulS But, say they shift people's responses towards them, and can't handle the bond they've created?
IntriKate It could be present tense "I don't belong here" "I don't know these people"
Jonathan To me, its about being willing & able to extend to other people in a way that gets attention, entrains attention, builds response-potential, and develops a desire in other people to know more, to be around you more, and to be connected with you in a way that you would find yourselves enjoying how other people reflect your strong attractiveness!
TheFool Like in the big seminars: you've got a question but you wait until someone else asks it, because you aren't sure if that question has any value... thereby denigrating yourself.
Androver It's really overanalyzing every little action.
ScottG "I don't know these people" - a shy person thinks "therefore they don't want to know me" - a confident person thinks "therefore I'd better show them who I am!"
Androver You think, "I really want to do this," but then your mind starts running through all the possible outcomes, and it invariably focuses in on the bad.
Gunny` It's not always every single moment being shy, I would say only certain situations, as in public speaking.
Jonathan Yes, Gunny, since all behaviors are contextuall dependent, there are often specific situations in which people become either shy or dynamic.
Moving in Better Directions
IntriKate What things do we do to be dynamic and attractive, Jonathan?
Jonathan Kate: Nonverbal pacing & leading is a GREAT way, because it lets people concentrate on the techniques and responses, and less on their internal dialogue! Shyness isn't relevant, when they're figuring out how to synchronize their breathing well & easily. Gives them an active task to accomplish.
Wendi I know a man who has a belief that people just like him, they always like him. It was such a cool belief that I decdided to try it on
Jonathan Ahhh Wendi -- I like that!!
PaulS Wendi, that is cool. Jonathan: the part about how "enjoying how other people reflect your attractiveness." Can you explain?
Jonathan Sure Paul! And keep in mind -- this may not apply to all shy people -- or even most. How do you think some people became shy in the 1st place? Any ideas?
TheFool Self-devaluating, focus on bad outcomes...
sunev Some people are shy about different things
Jonathan And rather than focus on this for a while, I think sometimes shy behavior is a withdrawal from extending to others, because at some certain points in the past they learned that that was safer, and free of risk or disapproval. OK. Shifting gears FAST -- from the less-than FUN topics, WHAT IF people devaluated themselves IN THE PAST because other people offered judgement calls that people somehow took too seriously. So -- maybe they allowed themselves to be trained to be shy in the past, because they put too much stock in other people's invalid judgement calls?
TheFool Jonathan, usually shyness is a learned thing, not something you are born with
Tranzpupy Why are we talking about "why?" Kathleen brought up that we can be alluring even if we are shy...
Jonathan That's one EASY way to get people to become more dynamic & less shy over time!
ScottG I find that I'm often atttracted to shy people becausee they look lonely
Jonathan WHAT IF people devaluated themselves IN THE PAST because other people offered judgement calls that people somehow took too seriously. So -- maybe they allowed themselves to be trained to be shy in the past, because they put too much stock in other people's invalid judgement calls?" Thefool had answered and said "shyness was learned." Tranzpupy asked "why are we talking about why? And I mentioned why (in some cases). Why not look at it differently! Instead of it being a character trait -- its a learned behavior. Shift logical levels on it.
Gunny I would say we are talking about why because before you can fix your error(s) you have to find out why you have them
TheFool Once it's learned, it inevitably reinforces itself.. like any other belief.
NightSoul Uh oh, that's a less-than-useful belief!
NLPSGI Get the 2x4...
Jonathan Now, let's go in a different direction, towards being alluring! Do you know anyone who's ALLURING?
Gunny What is alluring, exactly?
ScottG I find that I'm often attracted to shy people because they look lonely; that's Shyness being Alluring.
Jonathan Being alluring to other people is about charisma... a magnetic personality... behavior that invites curiosity and intrigue and desire and wanton motivation to find out more about you!
Wendi Being passionate is alluring. Passionate about anything.
Jonathan Passionate about anything is a GOOD one indeed, Wendi!
Wendi I think if you are passionate about life, others want to be near you and feel it as well.
Gunny So making the honey's want you, and want you bad, huh?
DarkF Being congruent.
ScottG Passionate is only alluring if someone finds it to be alluring I imagine.
Jonathan Scott! Choose someone you know is REALLY passionate about something, and they share how passionate they are about it with you! And then try to tell me you find them boring when they talk about it!
NLPSGI Passion ate. yum!
ScottG Yeah, it's what you are going to be passionate about, though; it has to be a mutual thing.
Wendi I think charisma is passion. Enthusiasm, perhaps. Because you really believe in what you are doing, it still could be alluring!
Jonathan You may not like or agree with them, but passionate behavior and thoughts is never boring!
DarkF What if they are passionate about negative things, i.e about finding fault?
Jonathan Ahhh, that's different. But not as different as you may think. At a content level, they may find fault in alluring ways, but at a process level, you may be able to learn how they're alluring without paying any attention to the message. IF you have the flexibility to learn and then apply it elsewhere towards good aims.
ScottG Well I'm pretty passionate when I explain NLP to my girlfriend, but she isn't interested, and it puts her off talking to me.
Jonathan Maybe you're not yet painting optimal pictures for her, Scott. :)
Dluzi So show her by using anchors!
IntriKate Maybe show her, instead of telling her.
Jonathan LOL! Dom & Kate share a Chocolate Bunny!
Dluzi So are we splitting hares?
NLPSGI ROFLMAO
NightSoul Ahhh is rapport part of allure?
Wendi Can't have allure without rapport!
sunev Unless you're fishing!
ScottG Good point, I will help her to believe! Thanks!
TheFool So the main basic thing to start with will be rapport then.
Jonathan You could start with Rapport, or, you could start with beliefs!
TheFool Once you have rapport then you wont feel any shyness to that person !?
Wendi Intellectual explanations may not be passionate or charismatic. Maybe you could shift to an emotional state to talk about NLP.
DarkF You need to listen as well as talk.
Jonathan Thefool -- You may indeed still feel shyness, OR it may be a MOOT point (i.e., irrelevant)
ScottG True, thanks! :) It's ironic when I try to explain NLP to someone when I'm not even using it.
Jonathan "Explain NLP" is part of the prob, perhaps? Live the skills, demonstrate for good reasons instead of 'explaining!'
DarkF Relate NLP to her, so it becomes interesting!
Wendi How can you not be "using it"? There is nothing to "use" rather the experience of it.
NLPSGI I think Wendi gets a bunny! Give Wendy a bunny!
Wendi Yippeeee!
Jonathan Ahhh Yes! One chocolate Bunny for Wendi!!! Oh, hey, you got the one with the little egg in its hand :)
Wendi Yummmmmm!
NLPSGI Yeah!
Jonathan OK, so we asked -- and then answered HOW can we be more dynamic? And the best answers were? Reproduce the behavior of people who you know ARE dynamic!
Wendi Explaining it would be like explaining how to breath in out, very boring. But if you shared the experience of how good it feel to be fully alive...
Jonathan Wendi -- Some people stuck in internal dialogue will have difficulty being able to do that UNLESS they try something else first, perhaps.
NLPSGI Unless they talk themselves into it!
Jonathan Hehheh; Agreed. That could be a fast way to get 'em moving!
ScottG I want to be more dynamic than them though!
Wendi It is not a contest. You don't need to be more or less than anyone
Jonathan Confidence is built how? Confidence is not built by asking someone to increase their level of confidence! Confidence is built how? I may have answers, but I want to hear yours!
Wendi Get the state of having had a drink or two, without the alchohol?
TheFool Not if you use it only once, to get the feel of the state. Then you just elicit the state.
IntriKate Confidence is a belief, yes?
DarkF Re-experienceing confident moments.
Jonathan A belief, or set of beliefs, or state, etc
tref Becoming aware of past successes.
Wendi Yes, like the belief I mentioned earlier, that people like me.
NightSoul Looping experiances of past accomplishments into future experiances and present behavior
Wendi (the one I borrowed)
Jonathan Sure, all that good stuff!
ScottG Picturing yourself confident in a situation - reframing
TheFool mimic a drunk person ... especialy a friend ( worked foe me .. got drunk on orange juise.. kissed all teh girls in the pub lol)
PaulS Future-pace your representation of confidence.
DarkF Associate into memories of a confident person.
tref Umm, realizing that whatever the outcome, you will gain from it?
How Do Confident & Shy People Differ?
Jonathan What's the biggest difference between confident people and less-confident people, all other things being equal?
tref Attitude of confidence.
Wendi Their perception of how they will be recieved
PaulS Their strategies
DarkF Internal dialog
sunev Experience?
Guest Beliefs
Wendi their percieved outcome
Jonathan The confident people have a library of personal experiences in which they've achieved certain levels of success and confidence, before! The less-confident people also have experiential libraries, and I'd be less inclined to check out their books!
TheFool Their actions
ScottG Confident people dont think about the all bad stuff that shy people think about. Shy people need more options, more choices.
IntriKate Shy people need a re-write!
TheFool Exactly Jonathan. The universe "proves" us right all the time, no matter what beliefe we hold, be it a good one, be it a bad one.
Wendi I built a state of confidence once when I had to go on the radio the first time.
sunev How did you do that?
Wendi I was either going to throw up, or find a new state! Cuz I didnt want to throw up! I decided that I had been on the radio over 100 times, this was just another time. No big deal. Of course, I noticed that everyone I saw recognized me from all my media apperances (there were none at the time). And I started talking to myself about how easy this is getting. And I reminisced about the first time way back when.
Tranzpupy One of the things I do, is to think of something I *like* about the person I want to talk to...
Jonathan Oh, I LIKE THAT strategy, Tranzpupy! Tranzpupy wins the 3rd Chocolate Bunny award of the night! :)
sunev I just try to pay attention to what I'm doing *now*, and don't worry about what is next. So, what is next? LOL!
NightSoul Classic....everyone has a redeeming quality...even...
TheFool Sunev, does it work all the time?
sunev Mostly.
Jonathan So we have a number of possible routes towards being more alluring & confident. Taking this a bit further -- Have you folks ever met someone who you think: (1) is amazingly charismatic....
(2) Knew how to listen & validate
(3) is able to maintain his/her own views or change them if desired
(4) can continue to be the center of attention even if they weren't talking all the time?
ScottG Before I do something which requres confidence, I like to look in the mirror "Go F**K EM UP" and think stuff like that till I cant stop laughing
NightSoul Patch Adams
TheFool Robert Holden - leader of the happiness project in the UK
Guest, Tref Tony Robbins
Jonathan Gunny, someone who if you listen to them, or see them, you just DROOL or DECIDE you want to be like them
Jonathan :) OK -- THINK about the person that came to mind folks. Preferably someone real that you've not only met but spent time with --- rather than a movie character. Though a movie character will do if it works for you.
TheFool Paul McKenna
PaulS Sean Connery
ScottG Arnold Schwarzenegger :)
Tranzpupy Jonathan Altfeld. And of course Richard.
sunev Bruce Lee!!
Gunny The girls on Baywatch!
sunev The boys on Baywatch!
TheFool Whoopi Goldberg...
Jonathan We have a bunch of NLPers here in-channel. I'm going to ask this from a NLPer perspective. What are some of the specific things those people do that is charismatic or alluring? Keep answers concise and process-oriented, rather than content-oriented.
Wendi Smile with confidence. Speak deliberately. Eye contact.
sunev Talk to you. Seem sincere.
Tranzpupy Pays attention to the "audience."
DarkF Being congruent with what they say.
Dluzi Knows how to go first!
Jonathan Yes, Dom!!! (You already got a bunny, Dom)
TheFool Robert Holden nods and validates whatever people say to him, before he agrees or not.
Wendi Have original ideas, instead of reacting to the events or conversation.
PaulS Voice Tone, body posture, facial expressions
Jonathan PaulS -- what specifically about those do they do?
PaulS Deep calming voice tone when talking, and a serious and confident facial expression
IntriKate Playful and flirtatious
TheFool Soft face, slight smile. LOVING! That's it!
Wendi Loving shows.
DarkF Seem interested in you.
Gunny Well, the people in the movies, that is not how they really act/are, it's called acting.
Jonathan Gunny, some actors have got it right on the money -- many have NLP training. Their AIM is often to act so convincingly that you believe they ARE the person they portray. They're doing very similar things to what we're doing.
Wendi That may be it in a nutshell. You feel like they like you.
Gunny Oh, okay.
TheFool Gunny, fake it until you make it.
Jonathan If we want to be more alluring, we're going to ACT more alluring, by studying people who ARE more alluring than we are at present!
tref I think I'm immediately going to take acting lessons..
Wendi Charisma won't go far, if you think that person doesn't care for you.
Jonathan EVEN IF someone has HAD trouble, in the past, being more alluring or charismatic... Would it be helpful to do any of the things above?
TheFool, Gunny, sunev Yes!
Jonathan Gosh, though, what if they just can't do all of those things together even if they tried it once? Do they have to go back to being shy?
Tranzpupy No, they have to go back to being shy. It's a rule. ;)
TheFool Disasociate from the movies (or what ever process you engage in), change the events & occurrences, and reascociate.
sunev Do 'em one by one! Never back -- always forward!
Tranzpupy No failure, only feedback.
sunev Rules again!
Wendi Right on, tranzpupy!
TheFool Not feedback, only feedforward.
Jonathan Oh, gee, though, I'm not sure how much good it would do to just do one of those things, though. I mean, just doing one of those things above seems like it would be so... minimal.
Wendi One would be btter than none, Because it all started with just one, for each of us charismatic folks!
TheFool And if there is one ... there are more!
sunev It's a start! And it's easy to practice one by one. Like when you're trapped in an elevator, with a few people from irc!
Jonathan Its so much easier to just be... ... ... ... ... ... the same....
ScottG You could be the same but where would that get you?
TheFool It's a start, as sunev said, and once you've started, you taste whatever you desired, & you can't go back any more!
Jonathan As Richard says in his "Personal Enhancement Series"... 'he who hesitates... waits... and waits... and waits... and waits... and waits... and waits... and waits...' Do you want to wait, anymore? Or are you now through with that? I mean, enough's enough, is it not?
DarkF Associate pain with staying in current state.
Wendi It is easy to stay in the current state, but not helpful for me.
sunev Why not? If it's easy?
Jonathan It may have been easy to do. Until you realize what happens to those areas that stay parked on a couch or chair too long.
TheFool What about associating MEGA plasure with every little good change? An orgasm maybe?
Building Pleasurable States Inside Yourself
Jonathan Now we're talking!!!!!
TheFool You'll never stop changing.. chain orgasms!
IntriKate {perk}
DarkF Yeah, but if you associate pleasure with the dynamic state then you will move towards it.
Jonathan Chain orgasms!
Wendi How do you chain something?
Jonathan Well, first you have to have 10 orgasms, quickly, then, tie them together.
TheFool Associate pleasure with the action of moving towards great results. Then you'll keep on moving forward.
Jonathan By then, it won't matter anyway, you'll just want more!
TheFool Why stop?
Wendi ...7, 8, 9, 10 -- aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh, I need a cigarette!
IntriKate LOL Wendi!
Gunny Can women really have 10 orgasms in a row?
IntriKate Oh yes Gunny, at least
NLPSGI Yes, if it is a slow day.
Wendi Of course! I have a tape for it.
Dluzi I use something other than a tape Wendi!
Wendi That is not what I do with the tape. Duh!
NightSoul WOW this topic changed :)
Jonathan Well, what's more alluring than the idea of hopping into the sack? Or, onto the washing machine? Or, into the shower! Or, into the backseat!
NLPSGI No, I find it rather alluring!
PaulS Sure enough!
Dluzi Me Too!
Wendi Now, what was the point here? You have 10, then you do what? Stay home and be with your charismatic self?
sunev Got a little sidetracked there, Wendi?
IntriKate Have ten more, and tie them together!
Jonathan Is 10 enough, Wendi? Or is it time to have more, now?
Wendi Jonathan!
Jonathan Even if you didn't, maybe we can learn how different 'normal' experience is from an orgasm, and make our moment-to-moment experiences in life MORE pleasurable? If our bodies & minds can feel THAT good in an instant, how much better can we feel the rest of the time?
Wendi I used to date a hypnotist... and he had some abilities that others would doubt.
Jonathan I wouldn't doubt that! :) I would enjoy hearing ALL about it! LOL Wendi!
sunev Do tell!
Wendi Get out of town! The point is this: He and I believed that there were few limits, and so there were few limits.
TheFool Exactly, Wendi. Whatever you believe in, is true for you!
Wendi Don't limit yourself.
Jonathan Agreed! Or, free yourself!
Wendi Yes, apply that also for other things.
NightSoul Allow the infinite possibilities!
Jonathan Let me ask another question along these lines but without being graphic! :) Have you ever looked into someone's face/eyes while they were experiencing strong pleasurable sensations? Doesn't have to be an orgasm, it could be a massage, or a jacuzzi, or something else.
Dluzi, ScottG, IntriKate, sunev, Wendi Yes.
Jonathan In the moment when you allowed yourself to observe and perhaps appreciate their enjoyment -- was there even a HINT of internal dialogue or doubts or worries or concerns... Was there any lack of enhanced awareness for what the other person was experiencing?
ScottG Only pleasure, here! :)
TheFool Once you're in the feeling, who cares about silly internal dialogues, concerns, worries.. or whatever else?
sunev Yeah, who cares?
Throwing Thunderbolts! One step to Amplifying Your Allure!
Jonathan What if ALL you needed to do to be more alluring, was to find a way out of old worried perceptions, out of doubt, out of shyness, and into a congruent state of internal pleasure. If you walked around in a state of pleasure, would it even matter what you said to people (within reason)? Would you even have to say anything? Would you have to "conquer shyness" or "raise self-esteem?"
sunev, TheFool, Gunny No.
Jonathan Or would other people become aware of your state AUTOMATICALLY and want some of what YOU'VE GOT!
tref I would have to bring them into the same state of pleasure, which increases my pleasure.
TheFool I remember the first time I met Robert Holden; it was a 5-hour workshop. When I went home I had a smile from ear to ear, in the tube, in the buses, and people were smiling with me! That was even more great! :)
NLPSGI What if that pleasure was building up inside you and at the peak of that experience you turned and looked them in the eye and sent every ounce of that pleasure deep into their soul, do you think that would be alluring?
Wendi You'd get arrested?
tref That would be physiologically sending a rather STRONG signal as well!
Jonathan Hmmmmmm... makes my brain go haywire! Neurons just start lighting up!
ScottG YeeHa!
DarkF Yeah, things like pupil dilation are alluring!
Jonathan Yes indeed they are
tref And experiencing & visualizing deep pleasure releases phereomones!
sunev Shh, don't give away the secrets!
TheFool A smile, a genuine smile, that comes from inside, is alluring and contagious!
NLPSGI There are control knobs in your mind that you can use to send any level of good feelings! Richard likes to call it the Thunderbolt! It can be used with any feelings at any level.
Jonathan I spent an hour and a half on techniques & issues -- but what if all it took was building up a strong pleasure state and sending thunderbolts!
Dluzi Woo Hoo!!
Tranzpupy Tell us about the thunderbolt, Kathleen, Jonathan!
sunev Thunder and lightning!
Jonathan Well, we can tell you about it -- or -- you could always come to Austin TX & learn it experientially...
Tranzpupy Go on, Kathleen! I'm going to Austin but I can't wait!!!
NLPSGI Well, thunderbolts are easy; it is as I said. Build up a good feeling and then send it to the one you have in mind! You can spin the feelings or use SMD's to increase it.
Wendi I'm on the next plane!
IntriKate Woo hoo! We're doing thunderbolts in Austin?
NLPSGI Yes, we will be throwing lots of thunderbolts in Austin!
Jonathan Folks, listen to Kathleen (NLPSGI)!
NLPSGI Hey, and did you hear all the alluring people who will be there visiting?
Jonathan Kathleen & John will be throwing thunderbolts at you from the moment you enter the hotel and show up... Austin TX -- for Persuasion Engineering™ & the Meta Master Track™!
NLPSGI Ross Jeffries, Roye Fraser, Mark Cunningham, Dr. John LaTourette (developer of the speed hitting system - expert martial artist and Silva expert among other things) to name a few. Richard and John always have surprises showing up!
Jonathan You're giving way more than they're paying for, Kathleen, you should up the price!
NLPSGI OK sorry I got carried away thinking of all the alluring people who will be there! What a chance to meet some examples of excellence and diversity!
Tranzpupy This is Richard. And John LaValle. This is the "best!" And it works... I almost doubled my salary after Jonathan's NLP Practitioner Course!
Jonathan Hey, Kay! That's fantastic!
Tranzpupy I also negotiated a $5/hour raise before I started work. Now, people tell me "You are good, that's why we pay you the big bucks!
Wendi 19, 20, 21, LOL! LOL!
sunev And counting!
IntriKate Better than counting sheep!
Dluzi 67, 68
Jonathan LOL Wendi! Did you get that on tape?
Wendi JOOOOONathan. I didn't record orgasms on tape! It is a tape for hypnotically great orgasms. But there are no orgasms on the tape!
IntriKate Tonight's chat was broughto you by the letter "O"!
Dluzi More-gasms!
Wendi Help. I need a boyfriend!
Jonathan Hmmm...
Wendi Quick, I need one today!
sunev Wendi, you already had 20-something!
Jonathan I can see where this is going, big & bright!
Wendi Next chat: "You & Your Orgasm"
tref Do we have to bring one with us?
Jonathan (I need to remember to edit in "Welcome to Brazil" at the beginning of this chat later...)
Wendi Tooooo funny, guys!
Jonathan Scott, sometimes all you need to do to be more alluring is to get into the state where you ooooooooze sensuality, in ways marginally "appropriate" to the context you're in...
IntriKate Just put yourself in a perpetual state of orgasm, and project that to everyone, and that's it? That's more fun than I thought!
Wendi So I guess this is ultimatly on-topic! This is where the allure thing was supposed to go? OK troops, report back next week!
Jonathan I had no idea where the allure thing would go, but I'm enjoying the chat anyway! Hey, you folks took it here! Blame yourselves and then enjoy it twice as much!
IntriKate Next week everyone reports back with carpal tunnel...
Wendi Kate! Who do you sue for that kind of carpal tunnel? Do you get disability?
IntriKate Take matters into your own hands.
Wendi There was a script for an online orgasm, NLP-style! I put it in my book!
Gunny What kind of script?
Wendi One to induce orgasm without stimulation. And that is a high learning state, yes? Sexual arousal peaks your learning ability.
ScottG Has anyone here anchored an orgasm and fired it off randomly? I mean without physical stimulation.
TheFool Without physical stimulation? LOL! Show me any picture of any girl from Baywatch wearing a swimsuit!
Wendi This is an important subject. I get more email about that than anything else to do with hypnosis! I have a hypnosis tape called Virtual Viagra!
sunev I'm thinking, I'm thinking!
Wendi Haha, sunev, i got it!
IntriKate Jonathan - now that I understand this - how do I anchor this to remember it when I'm in a situation where I feel shy? Since it's so clear right now, and I want to remember it when I'm in a situation where I am usually shy or reticent.
Jonathan Let me start by asking "What do you know about anchoring?"
ScottG I'm not sure how much I know; I know a bit.
Jonathan I might start by imagining an experience one might encounter in the future when it would be useful to be this way, in this state. What I suggest would probably be best attached to the environmental triggers each of us thinks we're going to experience.
ScottG At work, when the boss gets pissed
Jonathan Does he get pissed at you? Or in general?
ScottG He gets pissed at me. If he doesn't like what I'm doing, or if I get accused of anything, I want to keep my cool.
Jonathan If I were you, I'd imagine/hear him acting his normal way, all while amplifying allure inside... and find out how differently things might go if I behave in that new way!
ScottG When I imagine the 'bad' situation though, I lose that good feeling
Jonathan You might choose to start by feeling good first! Then, perhaps, see yourself doing some of the techniques we talked about, and enjoy the results you might gain! You might want to do it -- in dissociated fashion. See yourself in that situation.
ScottG OK, thanks! Yeah, dissociated is easier.
TheFool Just by thinking about the word allure & saying it to myself, it dilates my pupils, and I feel the warmth that I had through the conversation. It's got a nice sound to it.. alllluuuuurrrrrreeeee .. like chocolate on the tip of the tongue.. melting.. slowly.. YUMMMY
Jonathan Yup! Plus its a great ambiguity root :) Your Allure....ing
TheFool Give it a bit of a french accent, too!
IntriKate It fits well with sensual: sensu-al-luring!
Wrapping-Up!
Jonathan Let's wrap up the chat, folks! Thanks for coming!
TheFool Thanks very much!
sunev Thanks, Jonathan!
Jonathan My pleasure! Thanks, Kathleen! Thanks, Dom!
Dluzi Good night all, and thanks to Jonathan and all you others... Thanks Kathleen!!!
Wendi Thank you, Jonathan & all! It has been fun.
NLPSGI Ya Hoooo! John says 'Hi' & is sorry he couldn't be with you tonight!
Wendi Yes yes yes! 33, 34,
ScottG Keep up that looping orgasm, Wendi :)
Wendi 35
Jonathan LOL! 4,926, 4,927, 4,928
Wendi Hahahaha! There is my new boyfriend!
Jonathan 4,929, 5,255 (skipped a few. Well, they all blur together these days!)
Jonathan Thank you ALL for coming to chat! I enjoyed this one -- and the group! Fun fun fun! Amplifying Your Alllllllllur.....ing... now, aren't you!
IRC CHAT OVER!

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